Chris Lane

The Red Ranger: Recognize the name?. Probably not given your allegiance to the MSM and radical, left-wing news sites.

Chris Lane is an Australian baseball player who was gunned down by three teenagers in Oklahoma while he was jogging.  One other item of note in this case is that he was white and his killers are black.  One of the assailants has postings on his Twitter account about how he hates whites.  I wonder if the Department of Justice  is going to be looking into this as a hate crime and whether Chris’ civil rights were violated.  My guess is that they will not, given how the prevalent thinking there is that minorities cannot be racist and it is only evil white folks who can be racist.

When will Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson comment on this case?  Will Barack Obama get in front of the nation and say it could have been him?

My challenge to you, Nattering Naybob, is to find this story on one of your favorite websites where they indicate the racial context of the shooting or that one of the assailants has a history of online racial rants.

Nattering Naybob: Here we go again.

Let me start off by saying that I have always been uncomfortable with assigning any violent act an extra layer of a “hate crime”. I am a  little more sympathetic to a crime being labeled a “civil rights violation”, but even that term is poorly-defined. I don’t know what the point is of saying that a particular murder is a “hate crime” and another isn’t. I feel that any pre-meditated or depraved act of murder, is inherently hateful by definition.

I did a Google search a few minutes ago and I found several links to mainstream media outlets like CBS News, NBC News, Huffington Post, and others, whose first sentence mentioned the fact that one of his killers publicly voiced his hatred for white people. Expecting Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to comment on this case in the same manner as they did the Trayvon Martin case, is a waste of time because their main objective, as African-American activists, is to identify and comment on examples of the African-American community being treated unfairly. That is what they do. I find nothing wrong with admitting this very openly and honestly.

This reminds me of the argument I hear from white people who find fault with such institutions as “Black Miss America”, or any number of any other African-American based contests, ceremonies etc. The familiar dry is, “Oh, is they ever had a White Miss America contest, can you imagine the uproar?” Well, new flash for you: Most all public institutions, competitions, etc. throughout our history have been, by default, nearly 100% white, all along.

The Red Ranger: I tend to agree with you on hate crime.  I am honestly confused by the term civil rights violation.  What does that mean?  Aren’t all murders civil rights violations merely by the fact that they took away the persons civil rights.

Here is another story which is actually even sadder than the Australian baseball player given this guy’s record.

Yes, I believe that the MSM picked up the Chris Lane story as it gathered some notoriety.

Just because in the past, black women were thought by some to not be deserving to compete in beauty pageants with whites, doesn’t make it OK that they have pageants that exclude whites by their very nature.

Breaking news: Black kid killed, white killer goes free. Again.

Nattering Naybob: Excuse my rather blunt post title, Red Ranger but I think it justified, given the verdict that was handed down on Saturday night. If I were African-American, I would be pretty pissed off right now. What do you suppose would have happened if a black security guard (or whatever Zimmerman’s title was), targeted a white kid who had no apparent intention of committing any criminal activity, and, ignoring his supervisor’s orders to stand down, caused an unnecessary confrontation that resulted in the black security guard’s shooting of the white kid. I’m sure FOX News and all its adherents would be just as anxious to give the security guard “his day in court”. I doubt it.

I do not watch FOX News. I would rather be tasked to find a lost dime from the muddy ground inside a nest of hungry Komodo Dragons. So since I know you do watch FOX News, maybe you can answer this: Did you ever see anyone on that station, between the time of the initial killing of Martin, up to the present moment, ever express the slightest remorse or condolence for the death of an innocent teenager? Rather than their exclusive focus on Trayvon Martin’s Facebook page or the fact that he was caught smoking marijuana?

The Red Ranger:  I am starting to think that you are just writing these blurbs in an effort to keep our blog vibrant.  You cannot honestly believe what you are writing here.

The only thing that I agree with here is that if I were an African-American I would be pretty pissed off right now.  That anger would be directed at my fellow African-Americans who only seemed to get riled up when a fellow African-American is killed by a white, Hispanic or even a white-Hispanic.  The dozens of black on black murders committed daily do not seem to cause any amount of angst in the black community.  They are just accepted and people move on.  Perhaps a little more concern within their own community could lead to a reduced level of crime and violence.  Instead, of worrying about the rare instance where an armed white-Hispanic is viciously beaten by a drug addled black man and then defends himself they should turn their attention inward and focus on their own community but as is the case within the liberal Democratic world it is always someone else’s fault and no one needs to take responsibility.

I am sure there are numerous instances where a black person shoots an innocent white person every day but this does not make the headlines in the MSM since it does not fit their narrative.  I would love to see a statistical breakout of every solved murder to see how many of the killers were white/black vs. whether the victims were white/black.   I am fairly certain that the numbers would show a larger proportion of black on white murders than white on black.

I know that you have fallen prey to the MSM’s portrayals in this case but let’s face the facts.  A jury found Zimmerman innocent so via the transitive property Martin must have been guilty of attacking him to allow him to defend himself with immunity.  Therefore, you cannot call Martin an innocent victim.  Perhaps if Martin were not high on drugs he could have handled the situation in a more mature manner.  Instead of violently attacking Zimmerman he could have just as easily introduced himself, thanked Zimmerman for trying to protect his neighborhood and maybe shared some Skittles with him.

In regard, to FOX News they certainly have had commentators come on who have said that this was a tragedy for all involved and  have expressed remorse over the situation.

If the DOJ seeks civil rights charges against Zimmerman the people of this country will need to take a long hard look at where this country is heading.

Nattering Naybob: Just as you cite cases of same-race murder or murders of whites by blacks, so can I cite many many instances of black suspects being railroaded over the years for victimizing whites. Last time I checked my history (a topic ignored by most Republicans except in the rare cases it suits their needs), very few whites were lynched over the past hundred or so years and if there were, I doubt that any all-black jurors failed to convict the black lyncher(s) despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I might also add as a point of fact that the vast majority of lynchings of blacks in the 20th century took place in the Deep South, which is also a Republican stronghold. I’m just sayin’.

The bottom line is that Zimmerman has a history of targeting African-Americans, he was told by his supervisor to stand down and not pursue Martin, and he ignored that direct order, and it was his gun, shot by his hand, that killed an unarmed teenager. And he walked away totally free on Saturday night, probably into a waiting job at FOX News as a criminality or security analyst.

The Red Ranger: Like any good Democrat you try to paint southern Republicans as the root of all things racist.  Weren’t some of the most racist figures in southern history democrats (George Wallace for example).   By the way did you see the instance on either CNN or MSNBC where when showing a clip of George Wallace they labeled him a Republican.  Of course, I am sure that any card-carrying liberal believed that since there this is no way a democrat could ever be a racist.  I think that this shows either the complete incompetence in the staff of these networks or indicates the total lack of ethics they have as they try to distort history to a gullible American public.

Southern democrats and southern Republican all voted against the civil rights act so it is not just a Republican thing.  A Republican wrote the voting rights act..  A Democrat put the Japanese in internment camps.  I could go on and on but history has time and again shown the Democrats to be the more racist party.  However, the MSM has taken it upon themselves to re-write history and portray the Democratic party as some long standing champion of minorities and immigrants when they were historically anything but that.

To me the bottom line is you have Trayvon Martin with a history of drug abuse and violent behavior viciously attacking someone who was just trying to make their neighborhood a safer place.  Martin misjudged his victim as I am sure he thought he could beat up some overweight white guy.  I am sure that if he Zimmerman was not legally carrying a weapon he would have become just another victim of black on white crime and Trayvon would have boasted on his Facebook page about how he beat up some “Cracker”.

Nattering Naybob: We have a fundamental disagreement on this one. Zimmerman and his family, especially his brother, have a history of racist attitudes that indicate a proclivity on George’s part to target out an African-American teenager. How in God’s name is it pertinent whether he had a “history of drug abuse”, meaning he was caught smoking pot. I guess that makes Zimmerman’s murder, justifiable homicide in your eyes. Yet Zimmerman was not even charged with that.  This article lays out a report released by the city of Sanford, which summarizes serial instances of Zimmerman acting recklessly and focusing much of his suspicions on African-Americans, some of whom may be he imagined. I find the whole thing disgusting.

Finally, your portrayal of Zimmerman as am “overweight white guy” is a little mis-leading. It is true that right now he probably could stand to ignore the recipes in the latest Paula Deen cookbook, but on the night he murdered Trayvon Martin he actually looked very fit.

The Red Ranger:  Martin not only had a history of drug abuse he had drugs in his system on the night of the incident.

What is your definition of fit?  He was described by someone during the trial as being a .5 and a scale of 1 to 10 in regard to fitness. I cannot comprehend how you reference everything in Zimmerman’s past but fail to recognize anything in Martin’s past as being integral to this case. Clearly, you are having a hard time accepting the fact that you are wrong in this instance since the jury found him not guilty. Why do you constantly fall victim to the MSM and liberal manipulation of the facts?

In the last paragraph Zimmerman did not call to report a black male.  He only identified Martin as potentially being a black male when asked by the dispatcher.  This is the exact misrepresentation of the facts that has gotten NBC, etc. into hot water.

The Nattering Naybob: I submit forthwith a before and after image of George Zimmerman. Compared to how he looks  now, I feel confident stating that he was “fit” immediately after the shooting. As an apologist for a de-facto law enforcement agent who deliberately disobeyed his supervisor’s orders, resulting in the murder of an unarmed teenager, I know that you will do anything to portray Zimmerman as being at a physical disadvantage on the night of the shooting. If he was in fact at a fitness level of “0.5” on a scale of 1 to 10, as you state, he should not have been on duty in the first place. I think we should give our small but loyal band of readers time to digest all our comments above, then we can continue with another posting during which I will respond to your latest “blame the victim” whining.

zimmerman_before_after

George Zimmerman Trial

The Red Ranger: With the George Zimmerman trial nearing completion and the evidence pointing to Trayvon Martin clearly being the aggressor I wonder how all of the MSM will handle the verdict.  However, seeing how juries work in Florida I would not be shocked if Zimmerman were found guilty.  If Casey Anthony could be found innocent then anything is possible.

The prosecution clearly had a very weak case given the string of laughable witnesses they paraded out.  The best of course was Rachel Jeantel who claimed she wrote a letter and then it was pointed out that she could not read cursive writing.  You would have thought the prosecution would have known this before putting her on the stand.  Also, Trayvon’s father had to hear the tape 20 tapes before he was able to realize it was Trayvon’s voice.  I guess someone told him he needed to change his story.

It is really too bad that this guy was treated the way he was by the media.  Just like there is a fund for victims of crimes there should be a fund for victims of the media.  All media companies should have to put 0.5% of their revenue into the fund and the funds should be distributed to those wrongfully portrayed in the media.  Any year that there is no one deserving of the payout the monies should go back to the media companies.  That will teach them to be more honest.

I just hope that if he is found innocent there is no rioting.  Who can forget the day we left work early because of the rumors of rioting in NYC after the Rodney King verdict.  I remember walking to the Port Authority with you anxiously approaching every corner ready to run for our lives.  Ultimately, the biggest headache was waiting for the buses since everyone got out of work early on the buses were not on there rush hour schedule.

Nattering Naybob: First of all I remember nothing about walking home with you towards the Port Authority Bus Terminal in the aftermath of the Rodney King trial. You seem to remember nothing of the malfeasance of the GW Bush administration which ended a little over four years ago yet you remember a single day some 22 years ago and where I was looking and how I looked, doing it. Assuming all this is true, the reason I may have been peeking around corners was simply to protect you (since you are about 5 months younger than me) from crossing the busy streets of New York in your usual rash and petulant manner. I have always had an instinct for keeping people from being struck by vehicles, as I also alluded to in our most recent blog when I prevented my elderly school crossing guard (and myself)from being run over a truck, when I was just in first grade.

Regarding the Zimmerman trial I have not studied the forensics reports or the trial transcripts so I cannot comment on the case, which is still pending.  Maybe we should contact Nate Silver and see if he has made any predictions about the pending verdict. The one item that I do agree with you wholeheartedly is the speciousness (let me know if you need a definition of that, The Red Ranger) of both sets of parents claiming that the screams heard during the scuffle, were from their respective son(s). I am not sure what that proved, if anything, except both protagonists had parents who would do anything to defend their son, or the memory of their son, in Trayvon’s case.

I don’t see why (or how) you want to take 0.5% of “the media”’s revenue and create a fund for suspects who you think are wrongfully victimized by the media. The media did not write up any police reports, the media did not collect any forensic evidence, and the media certainly did not pull the trigger of the gun that killed an unarmed teenager on his way home from getting Skittles and a can of iced tea. 

And regarding the letter that was supposedly written by someone who could not understand what she herself wrote, there is never any limit to the sheer stupidity of prosecuting attorneys. Just remember the OJ Simpson trial when Christopher Darden of the DA’s team prosecuting Simpson, insisted (against the wishes of Marcia Clark, the Prosecution’s lead attorney), that Simpson try on a set of black leather gloves that Simpson supposedly used in the murder of his ex-wife Nicole. The glove that Simpson put on did not fit his hand properly, probably because leather expands and contracts over time, and even if it did fit SImpson, that in itself would not have proven much of anything.

Even given your proclivity for outlandish political analysis, I believe that you and I could most likely, without any formal legal training, together put on a combined prosecution of any criminal suspect, better that most trained prosecutors in the country.

The Red Ranger: I think that we would make an awesome prosecutorial pair. Our first case should be the trial of Lois Lerner the IRS lackey who targeted conservative groups for unfair scrutiny.  Any government employee who takes the fifth amendment should immediately be tarred and feathered.  To think that you and I contributed to paying her salary.  As you can tell her actions (pleading the fifth) really annoyed me.  I can understand the targeting of the conservative groups, as wrong as that is, but at least admit the truth when you are caught.

Nattering Naybob: Yes, but my fear is that if we ever prosecuted the IRS case, you would insist on making Ms. Lerner try on a black leather glove that doesn’t fit, which would confuse the jury to no end and probably cause a mis-trial.